ANDY WARHOL h of at is Brigid Polk, a hrillignt ct best know for her vers dry martini of a critic. The emotionssalad on atrip, dancer with words Morement and changes. In the film l Changes are passages which remind hMespoons of me ice me of JJJJ's wrining technigue Shegugrter teblespoon of salt uses slow and fast motion She uses abrupt chages gossipy associarions and analyst sign and shorthand you can hir, yow know so .... started talking ahout whar matte for her. And I think she is a person who is itrieg wsh row halve and peel one cobme? Walter: birerire into but I still thnk thar we should try to tworemember a lttle hit of Jll when she 1 tertling perforinence in the Chelsea Gab a she has anorher importane oet in the forthcoming Imitation of lornt..de a alo rery important whose mrdia-medium is books she has about e hundred books which some of vou mar have read hutphe will soon appear on the avocado and remove the pir wish row cold see ell the books she's wiprd and mash it and I saw and recognized extraordinary powers of Jill explained the Po bookshelres and ei D: About what vou said abour visiows. I thi ik ethar your crinicism of mr comment toldwI rery well made. I would like to and a dash of doub I hare no hallucination pepper I can telk lowder than derelopment of the dance from abbreviations Ther call it style. She genius performence ar Judson Church her she should do more of ahe and retrc that. I do beliere thet Jll long time aro unil now I ald ehour corer of John Wilcock's Other Scenes Next to Brigid we have e youne men who is impersonating the amous Senor Faldez. am who wes rery kind to come here onighr and we re very grateful and erxt to him is Gregory Battcock Gregory Batteock is famous for phines so nutherous thet I can'7 berin o mention them Um, he did wanr me to say that he is an essistant pofeaor of art history et Farleieh Dickinson Uninersity I'd like to nnion the number of important boots hr put out which I'd hike to pration, And he's written grticles for et mepaziner too numerous to is, so it seems to me, the only crinie today who went on a word trip beinghow, or whaterer..um D:t miraculously creatire Instead of Grreory, would vou lke to finishrer rery fine book being an average, not rery-personalthat at e leter time... B: bur won do ths critic of modern dance, doing a typical. pedestrian, traditional, p Johnssun has one hig rision, end than coch of her werkly columns are little fregnents of that rision. John, rou Paised a rery important point about. wh. criticis end think thar please stand up and take his ublish ir through this book on the dance which would here been bur she um, and. other feelings and .. enable her to ontr did that because. you know, Jilother powers Village Voice reviewing job, rindi ates cocks and she told me she was explot her reallv really rermind rou made comment that e trving to arY a ther eritichm mighr be going in twe out erery wrek, reriewing on modern Oh you should say that in the dance and long. long paragraphs ofmicrophone Say thar writing she started ddenly to b soo00 sick of my cock book, so mow. what makes a writer sn 1 directions one of which is toward journalism, and the other of which wowld be in the strle of Jill Johnston which is more of a iterery surr of erser strle. which is not founded in reportege so march. Jill nerer feels dut-bound to talk about whet really happened thar week She cen write Welter?..woun about what mar hare happened yearn ago Is this new form of essay-I'm not re ther it's eren she somehow expresses e large feeling Lof this time ten years ago w many people haven't heard of her brcause Jill told me that she was become a dancer herself She dances with words She changed rom thought Id give her my nt book just their rechnical capabilaty-of Johnston to J11 I am rery much now D: f nobody has anywhich she has a great deel.. now D: f nobody hes any which she has a great deel. they do express more than thet , D lenguages, vooabu lary, slang and theUa s e fairly typical reader of the poetics of...writers In my youth it Vienna, I wer in love with the Johnston it to femous? Ultra:his is probably the quetion that writings of Peter Altenberg and the Well wh Iwith thet I knew Allconcerned me most of ell for a few thequesnons would like to erk one. : Village Voice, how do you think that ke to esk John e qurition now, and most important jobshort essays of Alfred Coburn. InJohnston because you ve talked sovears now, and that is. Does Miyo but will thir be the future rirht now is thar he is art crinic for he New York Review of Sex, doing e manvellous job there editor of l Johnston's forthcoming book Sclected Criticism From the Village political colemn and mell literare Voike U, to my right I have Berlin in the Thirties it the 30cial ech about her and she seems to be Johnston lire her coln? Um, he citiciam Gregory? Gidon' critical writing of Chaomsky whomlly great...I met her twice and wrote the most wise and witty know the question. D: We're it become a kind of wbsritute for her the first time I didn't know who she fe? Uh. is it a kind of therapy ther peakingE of All and her style of keep her going from week to Mist ra Violet who is, wh, noted The mike an our cheir up B: e didn know who I wes end I we week-f she weren 7 able to precticewhether it's now or not, but, uh, i he members f or her rather prepared stetement to dreliver her, and uh,.. crinicism-we haven't decided yet wes and she Me terribly upset, and pieces . D Give me the does seem that Jill has started mot upset, end enywey I think I'm her ife in weekly installments, would more famous than she is bur thet'she collepse completely, or has she some kind of fascinating vapor that perses through all of our lives to . but I think thet I really don'treelly.. cris micle ROmrthing and uh. perheps other for a great many things like most of critics have picked up on her style of wriing Uh, certeainly when/ pick um the Vilage Voice these days, I see Gregory, I believe you heve and I cannor like her, and uh,.o to bed witrh her declining persirtent appearancer onMonight. Would you ike to deliver the Menr iriffirh Show...um she it, of course, en actres who her Well uh, yeah, since you ask, yes, 4peared in many distinguished Alms, the most recent beiner Johndeliver tonight, and since also Chamberlain 's The Loves of happen to heve ir with me . 4 Fsenando Cortez in which she made her screen debut, and wh, note and to the right of Ultrecolm about the same time linlt we have another distinvshed Clay claiborne discussed a guacamolewriting is wher vou consider member of the panel, John de Menil saled in one of his restaurant reviews of Houston and New York Mr de and about the same ime the Menil is cheirman of that rtatement at this time? Gregory: ke the shape of her nose and her That's a complicated ouestion. thar, uh, one of the regu ler columnists in it seems to be mimicking Jill's srle-and not too auccessfully. wonder if Lit Picerd would hare something to sy about this. Lil: Oh. I was certainly teeth-I think she should have her but perhaps you cen find something .John: / Misswould not like you to take seriousty wher I am going to say beceuse told me that instinurions to bel since I wrote it all aftemoon, wh, to teeth done up sort of casual, you to say. ... Um..um know D: Well, uh ... Johnston 's dentist um Li? Lil: Yes? D: If you won't read your colmn, do you think that what Jill usted and I think the question invluenced by Jill Johnston's while ago Jill Johnston kent mentioning gwacamole salad in her e.. ofm I'm very shr and turned-on style I hare an accent, so I don' dare bur the last couple of months I did dare and I say certain is writing now, wh-her kind ofis.and I'd like to challenge you for not having any thing to hold corective to formalist criticism? Do on to ner e days to work you here anything to soy about her her writing Not in terms of was goine to be asked this 'things I think that shr turned me on style, which you 're dealt with, wh, from and since I didn't know that Lud. an women the New York Times refers to to can get my personal not going to read a statemar elines into the open Thet's what internationel compeny thetIn their advertisements as . pcelizes in oil fields for enrinecring otherwise known as Cherlorte beilentle but could vou ay Curtis-rarely confused with something abour the content. Is she and IN just give you one is special and can't read she did I think thar to look at a it'y rom who gid. "Anythine ork of ert, row heve to know how thar matters cannot be exnlained" another one is from one of the oursel, and you have to question great writers of today and ther's Leroi Jones end Lerol says, "Finally three quotes prposet.. rery civic-minded nn, irustee of the Museum of Chariotre Mormo, although I don 7really, uh, Irading us into somethinr Modern Art in New York, a trusteeknOw why not-talked about thatnew. of the Muscum of Primitive Arts camole selod was served at haneod you react to it what you feel La Oh, of course Jill, wh, when she lipped out end became someone else, she rote rery streighr colums on what art is roday. You hare to o ter of the Murum of Fine Arts in Houston And I would ike to say perenthetically that he hes one of the society huncheon. All three of these crities-Claiborne. Curtis end Johnston here e lot in common. question whet art is altogerher, and Mr. DeMenil mentioned that certein it is deadly simple point of riew .is of little value. And things that Jill Johnston then with thet exreordinary sense of poetry which he hes. he adds, "ErenVillage Voice October 17, 1968, and gir wrote 'd like to avote ome thing thar Jill wrote in the movies, and think she wer all nrst arr colections in the United Each has recomized the inadequete nce criticirm and eren art and art limitations imposed upon thought byriehr-I think she was. nerer labels, but only Jil has managrd to do something abour it. Artificialvery boring...I cen't read it... hur caterorization such as Art. Polrics,when she changed shr became rerr, Sex. here been eroded in herwh, profownd, because I think an Sates thet I have seen and to the right thet strange Hindu awwriton at the end is none orher read art criticism because I think it's Haw cen a And sort of he the sen man erepr And 1ort of ike first to quote it as it is here aparition at the end is noe other rhan Cherlotte Foreman ther heroin of arch avant gardery, the directorcinct Freudan asocietions freeatist oughr to become profound in man escape? aumming up those two I have another becarte quote which is from Budrlaire vou mentioned there's no way to eroid rder, whch her lirened the city for fire or ocietions personal and jectivethe moment he will not be sx ears. of the enmue! arant garde festival Baudeleire was en art critic from time xerpt br mnder .. Thet's all D: Well um ancther end he wrole this " to time famous performer andeiponses to phenomena and cultural nderstood br anrbody D Messege frow Charloite on Jl'scriticism is ther which is borh mo anv member of the penel uriting if rutreprenetr. uh. agreat dral of l well as artichokes hareWrll wonder if we can hare sincerely beliew that the hesr tion thet I would like to esk ia rpleced them A too fregwenth RECesSarily. the reader encounterig the new cPIdicisHt s ef h Miss Johniton on numerows amu sing and poetic. Nota cold r aember of thr panel woul/ like mathematical crinicism whiich uforiety for her innoretve etfunnence modern m . Charlotte has been to cnmmenr on it, is "Whet mekes orer there wouldnor hate." AndI think that withJ Juhnston so often rightI mean those threr quotes we hare Jillwh mst we ffer this incredihe prusr to hock our wur through all her terpreterions of modern here, rerolutionéodcofused For exomple. how maw aoplarng Ncoions row care to Hello Hello th patel lke to r propriate to hergin with a definitionMahe row could r tomething think that she stems from the three hee codums veer after year, drcide things can be said abour J years later, see that she eally was hae' more to her hr all along Um she's heen rerv accurate abowt writing- ne of the most important propie of the Johnwon prety well framrd, hecouse and that is our Now, would anr mewber and ther i aur people stif don eren know whes gacamole salad in Therefore. if icwld vou sr swe thing ahout Jill that she's kind of mutty, ond then. of them And, vou know, e lot of scientificabout her repertoire Charlotte: of terminology jMst want rou to know ther I ceu thuegh Marcwse tells as thet thepersonally agree with Walter order end oreanization of classLppman and Andr Warhol, and with A: ho are and forHr Liden Id and whr shouldn't we ande tarme hod TY B: I think thet I and when you thet she has had iap Voice riter Liten, itr to rea Lil's colvm for han ell of thems cen smell e tose said. Devid, thet she hes hed Sixties, and, uh, her conclusions "visions, don't think the hedcannot be seen to be arrived at isions"I think thet she hadintellechially "ron,whikh sotelly differeng led by ahe Fetes Uh how does Also, you esk how obectire can, criticism be objrctive criticis is temible that the only criticim that is ralid onle who obriowslr Is there s hiectire criticism Johnston started criticiun in bellet rbodr in the adirnce who wruld and, vou know blet so boring it's sooo0 boring and it's so and who's Jall D: Um. l rou. Darid a hich hes shaped the socie nreht to read M L Picard s cobm esblhty and the reason of menJohndon. an t soucthing now. r phe I at Villape Other. h. Brigld . they seem to be h thn marelleus wa of rttwe agnetion Alston the onlrhecr alter wasa wking at the What dees meke her.. Anrone? John: May make e aeion We hare a marrellous adience herr of tome threr hundred critic toder with lirerary ntic ngY rars er, and is a ver s s belore the appar on the irt yams Ss afways collme me Rsibilitr awother word for i o vad me cuues werks e aginetion Ithink that .frau the gbud wen and wen who f ho wite, end me w who wtite and. w whether hr has any frat wurk of her appressiow she treedom of the imagination onths heton the pars the seheit wrl as she feelines b uriting d .. and Jr pople who obriously.. s there nnssed h 1ds cohra and Rrind hds o d mke since ke to answer thet questiun? D:/ have a question for the aulience. 1 wke Jil h not wwuhlc, the is row ike to comwent on her tht roesanghe, end se cerlr has rgnl wher seem tu he ber whet seer bu be her T t here uch of hr wark is comlere feel her r puts too Mach of herther She is elive. She reanol stevpeople in this room havé read with corpse dred How cen shr stay whain re curious ehout how menr Do BrielB: This s aw analvMs hr Lk onte ses 111 1 Jawes Jovce wstow ith e ash of carwar is d drntcerated as a critic Hourrer umal kecpug u Picard through all of Jll Johnston's cohumns ue of hr wark is complere feel thar r puts too MaVch of her And then the ton tih a sh of carwar isg thot defuitiu of eulesholory end her daily lfe into her with corpse

ANDY

WARHOL

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know

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critic.

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words

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and

changes.

In

the

film

l

Changes

are

passages

which

remind

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ice

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technigue

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ahout

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her.

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I

think

she

person

who

itrieg

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Walter:

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into

but

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thnk

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try

to

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hit

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art

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Dickinson

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